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Typewriter interview with Brad Neely

10 questions for the writer and cartoonist about hobbies, silly rituals, and more...

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Austin Kleon
May 19, 2026
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Hey y’all,

Brad Neely is a cartoonist and writer who’s worked on TV shows like China, IL and South Park. He got his start “when the internet was scruffier, weirder, and much freer,” with viral hits like “George Washington,” The Professor Brothers, and Wizard People, Dear Readers before writing his novel, You, Me, and Ulysses S Grant. His latest book is a collection of his wild cartoons called Creased Comics.

This typewriter interview was conducted via the magic of the United States Postal Service. (For a plain-text version with links and a playlist, see the P.S. below.)

What career would you like to attempt 1f you weren't doing what you're doing?  Portraitist Philosopher Wizard Woodland Manager (Tom Bombadil) Classical composer of solo piano works. Cult-buster. Lit crit. Art crit. River guide on the white river in Arkansas. (All still viable options to me, btw!)
"What did you do as a child that made the hours pass like minutes?" (C. Jung)  Being in the woods. Being near creeks and rivers.  Being cold. Earth Wind and Fire (not the band, but they're great too!) Raising animals, real and stuffed.  Studying adults, imitating everyone in a funny but kind way. Making other kids laugh/feel good.  Skateboarding very seriously like a thrashing Huck Finn. Improv music albums with Tom. Copying my favorite art, getting frustrated, erasing holes in my errors and having crying fits in my room figuring out how to calm down and re-approach the problem.  Watching the same movies over and over. Listening to the same songs over and over. Making Weird Al dirty versions of pop songs. Chewing plastic. Toys and after school cartoons Gi Joe, He-Man.
Describe a perfect day where you live.  What I think I should say: a perfect day where I live is when all the people are healthy, happy, sated, heard, while feeling like they can self-define and still be a respected part of our shared community.  What is selfishly true: A perfect day is waking up knowing no one is mad at me. I'm not late on anything. I'm not procrastinating. No one out there is waiting on me or on my apology. It's overcast, cold, fog around the palms, black cawing crows and green screechy parakeets [ACTUALLY PARROTS, DANG. KILLS THE RHYME] swooping in groups, Campbell's Cream of Chicken soup, coffee, cherry gummie candy, Bach solo piano works, and flights of useful epiphanies plucked from the air without damage. Later we order dinner, watch Jeopardy! and Lakers and the good guys win and LeBron gets to feel fantastic. I get kisses and I make my people laugh and I can see they feel loved and listened to by me. I sleep great feeling like if there is a god he's ok with how I'm turning out.
Do you have any hobbies? Do you collect anything?  Books. Art books. Movies. Physical media. Collage material. I garden potted pines and redwoods that don't like the pots or the climate here. I feed the birds. I listen to audiobooks. I religiously watch the Lakers and Jeopardy! and SNL and I see them all as sports.   I'll get a special interest going and I'll get all the research I can on it, then I devour it, or not. I have stacks that lost their luster as soon as they got stacked. My real hobby is being at the mercy of my own whims and moods.   TV work, and making things for real requires a kind of masochistic professionalism. I gotta strap in and trick myself that I can be like LeBron and have no excuses, no bottom, no lies, only process to finish, over and over. Ahab shit. Melville's white whale was his book, Moby Dick, which we all have thanks to him chasing it down and letting it kill him. So, I've been working on Relaxing... which means reading a bunch of audiobooks at once and letting my mood tell me when to switch to which, like 30 mins at a time on each.
John Waters says he has "youth spies" that keep him up-to-date on culture. Do you have any youth spies?  I have a teenage daughter. The spy is a double agent and she is influencing me. I watch a lot of what my kid is into. I ask about the tastes of classmates. I'm a spy-master of one spy who mastered me a long time ago. But I really am a classicist. I like best the art that came before my own time. I like timeless stuff but topical pop has such an intense, rich flavor of connection! topical pop has such an intense, rich flavor of connection! Maybe because we know it's fleeting. Pop is like a stolen kiss on vacation.

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What's your relationship to music? Do you sing or play an instrument? What song do you never get tired of?   I am dumb about music, but I love it. I am bad at playing instruments but I feel ok about my singing and songwriting because it's all comedy so it's fun to lean into the bad curves.  Who do I like? Bach. Ligeti. Rachmaninov. Beatles. Miles Davis.  Let me check my most listened to for a scientific answer....  Led Zeppelin — Misty Mountain Hop Angelo Badalamenti — Blue Velvet: Main Title Theme Bernard Herrmann — Main Title (Taxi Driver) Steve Miller Band — The Joker Pink Floyd — Breathe (In the Air) Pink Floyd — Speak to Me Pink Floyd — On the Run Pink Floyd — Time Falco — Rock Me Amadeus The Troggs — With a Girl Like You Christina Aguilera — Ain't No Other Man The Beatles — I Am The Walrus The Asteroids Galaxy Tour — Around the Bend Judy Garland — Over the Rainbow The Chipmunks — You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) Ratatat — Wildcat B.E.R. — The Night Begins to Shine Noam Kaniel — Glitter Force: Wake up Shake Up Noam Kaniel — Glitter Force Theme Song Countess Coloratura — The Spectacle Radiohead — Knives Out Radiohead — Pyramid Song M.I.A. — Mango Pickle Down River Pink Floyd — The Great Gig In the Sky Moondog — Single Foot  Haha. Where's all that classical music, my man? Hahaha. Lots of Old Kids music for my kid years back, but yeah this is real deal.
What do you do for exercise? Do you detect any mental, spiritual, or creative benefits?  Everyday. Treadmill is a major part of my life. I've worn my legs out. But when I'm walking, I can think through art problems best. I like working on the work while being away from the work. Get a little distance, and feel your mind home in while zoning out. Hard to describe.  Get a note, get moving. If I don't feel like I understand An idea conceptually, foundationally, philosophically, thematically, emotionally I strip it down in the hanger of my head and I start with what I can't toss. I see the pieces all as ideas not as the script or the pencil work. But conceptually. Even the delivery of lines or the spirit of the hand. It can all be great and wrong or stuck in the wrong moment or wrong piece.   There's "talking about it" and then there's "drawing about it" and they both have their advantages. Exercise has always been part of my life as a focusing agent. I'd go skate and occupy myself so the "back brain could work." I love my unconscious. That slippery black goo is smart and helpful if you stop talking over it. Give it silence to work in.  "Sleep Brad" leaves solutions lined up like the work of cobbler elves, like "solution shoes" all freshly soled.  I work alone but I collaborate with different types of my Mind. Self love is allowing myself to be messy while allowing myself to demand cleanliness too. Equilibrium.
I "smoke" a cigarette peneil in the studio. Do you perform any silly rituals when you're working?  Wasting time. Allowing tangents to take over. Chasing a thought down to its root only to find that the deeper you go all thoughts are connected at the roots so you can't ever get to the bottom of a thing but rather you go round and round through the circuits of connectivity.   I keep a thumbtack in my lips when drawing, so I feel you on that, Kleon. I do a lot of "problem busting" on the treadmill or stationary bike. My days are all variations of the same day so I live a loose ritual over and over that pretty much looks like my second answer to [the first question].
 Do you see yourself as part of an artistic lineage? Who would you place in your creative family tree?  Forgive the list of typical old white assholes here. I love all kinds of creatives from all walks of life. Mine is a global canon of the complete species. Genius is not an invasive species, it can grow wherever any person is. At the moment I'm catching up on women poets from everywhere, from all times and it's been the best. But to answer the question truthfully... these are my creative influences that I feel can be tied to my youth and to Creased Comics historically as influence.  For old world, full spectrum, rainbow of kaleidoscopic encyclopedic nerd comedy/tragedy catalogues AND for doing the most with the least, over an over until there are so many independent parts that the whole feels oddly cohesive as one big thing completely its own, and yet oddly familiar to many: Aesop, Grimm Bros, Ovid, Shakespeare, Joyce, Beatles, Monty Python (True things are worth saying even if they're obvious. It keeps them true).  For little kid laughs in the American vein: Zucker Bros, Larry & Jerry, Matt & Trey, Pynchon.
For succinct visual puzzles that trigger the solutions in the mind of the audience: (These are masters at setting up an "art crime scene" full of clues that are up to the audience to gather and recognize as meaningful in this setting where the rest of the narrative explanations manifest the mind of the viewer as a solution to the clues offered: Raymond Pettibone, Hockney, Gary Larson, Goya, Avedon, Magritte, Matisse, Lynch, Kubrick, Spielberg.  For hardcore composition, figurative foundations: Kirby, Buscema, Toth, Twombly, Ellsworth, Velasquez, Eddie Cambell  Wildcards: Montaigne, Whitman, Rorty, Hume, Rabelais, Voltaire, Swift, Dark Knight Returns, Watchmen, Bill Waterson, Sebadoh, Neutral Milk
Do you have any advice for people who want to be more creative?   Stay open while knowing what you need to keep the same. Know the hard things to know about yourself which are load bearing, and what can move around about you. Tough to do, equilibrium.  Consider all advice, take only what makes sense to you. But really give things a shot. Read everything, respect everything and know that it all doesn't have to become part of you. It's good to just be aware of whatever you can. Read and watch and listen to things that feel too hard to enjoy. Strengthen your mental muscles and keep them in shape with challenging—not just entertaining—art. Know why you don't like things. Do you have a sense of your worldview? Your philosophy? Art comes from one's personal philosophy, intentionally or not, which comes from exposure, experience. Your mind can't hide if you're doing art, so know yourself as much as possible, but here's the twist, you get to know yourself by making art. Learn by doing. Experience. First-hand experience by making art, second hand by reading and watching and listening and staying open until death. Also, it's a "dog pet dog" world. Be kind and fun to work with. Be honest, but never cruel. Tell people when their ideas are good and mean it. Mean things when you can.

Big thanks to Brad for being the 20th participant in this series of typewriter interviews.

Go out and get his books You, Me, and Ulysses S Grant and Creased Comics and catch up on the archives of his YouTube channel if you dare.

Thanks, as always, to paid subscribers who buy me the time to do all the email coordinating, typing, snail-mailing, scanning, transcribing, and editing that goes into them.

xoxo,

Austin

P.S. Here is a playlist of Brad’s most-played songs and a plain-text version of our interview with links:

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